Posts by Pants of Righteousness

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Jehovah's Witnesses recover best from surgery, despite refusing blood.

by nicolaou in

that's' the headline of an article in the sydney morning herald.

my jw family are sharing it with glee on facebook right now.

here's the link; .

Pants of Righteousness

Hi Umberto

The story broke in May 2014 as reported in the Sunday Times. The thread at the time was:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279998/two-jehovahs-witnesses-were-paid-millions-restrict-wa-blood-transfusions

The Shannon Farmer referred to in the article is something of a bloodless surgery celebrity in JW world. He wrote this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Your-Body-Choice-Shannon-Farmer/dp/981041708X

The double standard is that the author - a former CO and elder - when dealing with a dieing Witness needing a transfusion, would push the doctrine of abstaining from blood (well, of course there's fractions ...), but are being paid to promote a program that only seeks to restrict the use of blood to one unit at a time.

A bit like abstaining from fornication - unless it's once 'unit' at a time.

Hope this helps

Regards to Adso

Pants

24

I just had fun giving a talk!

by OneEyedJoe in

so, unfortunately, i'm still on the tms and had a talk tonight (in front of a co, no less) and the talk was on the subject of adultery.

in the source material there's reference to "spiritual adultery" i.e.

idolotry or when israel had alliances with pagan nations.

Pants of Righteousness

I had a bit of fun with some of my final 'talks'. In one I read the quote from the WT that said something to the effect that 'only JW's have a scriptual hope of surviving the end of the world'. A concerned sister asked me for the reference to the article afterwards.

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History of the church/Christianity, etc.

by Joe Grundy in

i have learned a great deal from some of the very erudite posters on this site (thank you).. for many years i've been interested in the history of the development of christianity, not only from its earliest days but through the reformation, etc., and through to the 18th, 19th and early 20th centuries when denominations, sects, cults took off in all directions like exploding fireworks.. i was aware, in broad terms, of luther, calvin and the development of protestantism from which so many denominations and sects (including jws) arose.

i was vaguely aware of the schism (1,000 years ago) between the western (catholic) and eastern (orthodox) churches and was tangentially interested as to why it happened (if the 'east' was the home of christianity, how come the 'west' disagreed with it?).

i was quite interested to read, while living in cyprus, a greek orthodox english language bible which had a large section in the back about the schism.

Pants of Righteousness

I would recommend 'A History of Christianity - The First Three Thousand Years' by Diarmaid MacCulloch.

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The INTJ Personality Type, (and those close to it)

by done4good in

jw
friends

i am compelled to write a bit about this at this late hour here in the us, because it is keeping me up.. the recent four year old thread on the briggs myers personality type test that was dug up, produced an interesting finding.

many here, (at least tested informally for), the intj personality type.

intjs also do not understand irrational behavior particularly well at all.. why does this matter?

Pants of Righteousness

Hello

Just checking in as another INTJ, having taken the test yesterday.

Shyness is nice ....

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two Jehovahs Witnesses were paid millions to restrict WA blood transfusions

by Watchtower-Free in

source: supplied.

Pants of Righteousness

There is more information on the Patient Blood Management (PBM) here:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/how-two-jehovahs-witnesses-were-paid-millions-to-restrict-wa-blood-transfusions/story-fnhocxo3-1226921294173

It's worth noting that under the program "Certain patients at Fremantle Hospital, where the PBM program was piloted, are restricted to one unit of blood at a time regardless of whether their doctor recommends more than one unit."

So when dealing with a dieing Witness needing a transfusion, these guys would push the doctrine of abstaining from blood (well, of course there's fractions ...), but are being paid millions to promote a program that only seeks to restrict the use of blood to one unit at a time.

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Humans have been on the earth for 6,000 years?

by make yourself in

so i just heard this today at the meeting.

honestly i've never really paid much attention too it, but i know it's out of place.

can anyone shed some factual and historical light on this subject?

Pants of Righteousness

In 2013 the British Museum hosted an exhibition of Ice Age Art. All the works on display were older than 20,000 years, and all art is the product of the structure and organisation of the modern brain.

From the British Museum web site:

"Through archaeological evidence from Southern Africa, we can ascertain that the modern brain emerged just over 100,000 years ago with the appearance of art and complex behavior patterns. This exhibition will demonstrate how the creators of the work on display had brains that had the capacity to express themselves symbolically through art and music."

https://www.britishmuseum.org/about_us/news_and_press/press_releases/2012/ice_age_art.aspx

The British Museum is rather venerated in the Org with Society approved tours - pretty sure this exhibit (like plenty of other items on display) would have been off the itinerary. Maybe they tried to hide it behind a sign saying 'Beware of Leopard'.

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British museum bible tours

by inbetween in

visiting london years ago i had the chance to participate on a bible tour arranged from bethel.

what i remember, it was one out of 12 topics, and a brother or sister served as a guide, showing particular objects related to bible accounts.. at that time, i was quite enthusiastic about it, thinking i learned something valuable.. .

now, being awake to ttatt, i wonder what real scientific value those tours served.. or rather it raises the suspicion, that those tours are for visiting witnesses in order to distract them from many other finds in the museum, that would disprove either the bible or their own theology.. anybody ever made such a tour ?.

Pants of Righteousness

I've been to the British Museum twice. The first as a gullible twit who dutifully took the WT sanctioned tour. The second time I was somewhat better prepared to check things out for myself.

It was interesting to watch them in the Babylonian rooms. With bibles out, the guide spent an inordinate amount of time explaining one of the exhibits, then guided the group on to the next room - walking past, among other things, an artefact with explanatory notes placing Neduchadnezzer's 10th (?) year to a date incompatible with WT chronology.

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Elder and CO just dropped by....

by El_Guapo in

jw
friends

i haven't been to a meeting in over a year, and as you know as soon as you stop attending meetings/fieldservice the "conditional" love becomes more apperant.

the coordinating elder starts off by saying how much he loves and misses me, etc.

i ask him, when was the last time you called or texted me?

Pants of Righteousness

I have heard that when the CO enquired during the scheduled elder's meeting what had happened to me when I became inactive, they initially had no idea and then said that they thought I had moved - which I hadn't. CO then proceeded to castigate the elders and started to cry. CO turned up at my house with a trainee CO the next day with a gushing letter saying how much he and the congregation missed me. Surprisingly, I am still inactive.

Pants

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Assembly resolutions - did anyone ever take them seriously?

by LogCon in

is there any site that has the assembly resolutions for download?.

Pants of Righteousness

Always thought these were rather pointless. One year there were 7 resolutions back to back, mainly involving the Revelation book. They were mostly long winded and I'm sure by the time they got to the 6 or 7th they would have already forgotten the earlier ones. I think they were later published in the Watchtower.

Of course, any resolution was a fait accompli and more about emotion and groupthink.

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Has anyone ever read "The Woman In White" by Wilkie Collins?

by Berengaria in

i finished it this afternoon, and can't stop thinking about it.

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amazing, just amazing.

Pants of Righteousness

Hi

A 'yes' from here too. If you liked Woman In White you might also like Collin's later work The Moonstone.

Pants